V8 Radio Podcast Episode 177  - September 24, 2025

All right, ladies and gentlemen, automotive enthusiasts from all around the planet Earth. Doesn't matter what continent you are on. People like cool cars there, and you've done it once again. That's right. You've pushed the play button on yet another Kevin, another affable episode of V8 radio. Laughable, affable and affable, yeah. Means friendly or good natured or easy to talk to. See. Just like that. Boom bam. POW. This is the V8 Radio Podcast I'm your host, Kevin Oeste, joined, as always, by our esteemed co-host, Mr. Mike Clarke. I'm here in live and in living color. Doing great, man. Doing great. Uh, happy to get back on board here. Live and in living color. Love to see it and hear it right on. How are you doing? I'm alive and living in color. All right. We are simpatico. Yeah. We're affable. Yeah, we are that. Uh. I'm good, I'm good. This has been a very busy time, as always, which is great. Um, I'm very fortunate. I'm here in the garage, and the, uh, summer is just hanging on, which is a good thing for me. Right on. It's, uh. It's hot. It's still hot. It's unseasonably hot. Yeah. You guys have had some weather. Uh, we we had a little warm. It was warm up in the north office, uh, yesterday, but, uh, not like what you guys were getting. Yeah. So we're recording this in mid September, and it was one hundred and one yesterday. Oof! Yikes. And I loved every minute of it. You're right. I do like the heat. I tell you what, I do like it. Yeah. Well, speaking of bringing the heat, for those who, uh, listen to this podcast with, uh, routine frequency, which is, you know, everybody, uh, you know, that we start off each episode with an automotive trivia question, in which we ask the question at the beginning and reveal the answer at the end of the show. Have you prepared a trivia question? I have prepared a trivia question. So here we go. So, Kevin, our good friends at Dodge at one point produced a car that was designed specifically for women buyers and was marketed as, quote, a distinctive car for the discriminating modern woman, unquote. My question is, what was the model name of this car? And for the bonus, what model years was it produced? That is a tremendous question. And myself not being a discriminating woman buyer, uh, I have to think about that one. So I do know that, uh, Chrysler. I don't know, the GM and Ford did it, but I remember seeing, like, some really cool 50s concept car stuff that Chrysler did. Uh, you know, maybe like in the in the Dodge line, like a Dodge, uh, you know, fifty nine Dodge, whatever it would have been. This is before the cornet, you know. So I think that it was a special show car, but it was like pink, you know, and and they literally said that. And it also reminds me of that, um, what was it, a Tex Avery cartoon that we all grew up with, where it was the cars of Tomorrow. Oh, right. And it had a woman designed car that was done in pink with lace around it and everything. Um, so I'm starting to think of those, but going a little bit later, you know, the story tells it that the Mustang was actually designed more for a female buyer Then? Not necessarily not for males, but I think. Right. The Ford marketing execs literally called it a secretary's car. So they wanted something like small and easy to maneuver and stylish that this like new crop of baby boomer working women would be attracted to, to drive to work every day? Sure. So taking the nod from that, if it's like a mustang size, I want to say it might have been a valiant duster. Maybe. Maybe a maybe a Dodge. So the Plymouth Valiant and Dart. It was a dart. Dodge dart. Yeah. Plymouth Valiant, Dodge dart, Dodge dart. So I'm going to say maybe it was the dart. Okay. Um, possibly the duster, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say that although the dart has a very male name, you know, it's like it's like the Ford Probe, right? Um, so I'm having a problem with the name. I'm just going to get this over with and say it was a Dodge Dart. Okay. In what, model years? Unless it was a barracuda with the mod top. Ooh, now, now we're talking. But that's a Plymouth. Well, it was a Plymouth. I'm going to give you a hint. This was specifically a Dodge. Yeah. Huh. Great question. I don't think it was the dart, but I think it was a smaller, you know, type of car. And I think it was that time period Dodge. And I'm losing like all of my Dodge vehicle brand names from the, from the fifties and 60s. Uncle Bill from the shop is probably screaming at you right now. Well, he doesn't listen, but he would be screaming anyway. Yeah, right. I mean, in fifty nine you had like, the Dodge Lancer and the Royal Lancer again, both men knights and horses with the Lancer was, you know, jousting. It's not a female thing. So. Yeah. The Plymouth Savoy, you had the Chrysler, right? You had all those crazy Dodge or Chrysler product names. I'm just going to go with Dodge Dart. Okay. And again, what years. What years was this marketed to women or what years did they make the car? What years did they make the car? The first time. I'm going to say when the the dart came out in sixty three. And that lineage went all the way to seventy six. Okay, so everybody yelling at your podcast playing device right now, I hear you, I feel you. I'm just going to concede now and learn all I can. Educate me on what this is later. All right. We'll find out at the end of the show. All right. Duly noted. All right. What do you got for me? I got an easy one for you. Yes. As you. All right. Um. You know, they they they call different body panels different things in different parts of the world. Yes. So what is the scuttle panel? Oh, Lord. What is the scuttle panel? Hmm. Man. Um, are you allowed to tell me from what country? That it's a female or male? It's just, uh. Um, yeah, I probably could. I don't know if it originated from. But it's used in Oz in Australia. Ah, okay. Interesting. Okay. This makes me think of a trivia question from way back in the day that will live in infamy. The Dutchman panel. No, the the dashboard. Oh, that one too. Yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna say that the scuttle panel looks like a dash because it's straight. Like a dash. Back in the day, it's not swoopy then like it is now. Um, I'm gonna say scuttle panel is a is a dashboard. Mhm. Final answer. I like like that dashboard. Well I mean it's it's it's been career defining for me. Okay. All right. Well then you are duly noted. All right. And we'll find out uh, later on in the show. Right on, man. So, uh, so much going on. We just got back from, uh, tremendous event, the Triple Crown of riding. We certainly did. What an event this is. This is my second year, uh, going to the Triple Crown. It was the third annual event, and they. It just gets better and better with each each, uh, iteration of it. They. Even though it rained, even though it rained, it was still pretty cool. Even though our pop up are a little easy. Up was destroyed. Easy, easy. Yeah, well, not too easy. It went down. That poor thing. It's amazing how heavy water really is. Yeah. But, um. But. Yeah. No, it was a great event. I mean, Gary Case and Bobby Alloway put on a tremendous event and with all the support that they get doing it, and people came out in droves on Friday anyway when the weather was great. Um, Saturday was a little more sparse, but the diehards were there, and the people who knew that they won something certainly stayed, stayed around and kept the cars displayed throughout the rain. Um, but I mean, my goodness, it was tremendous. And we had been with us, which, uh, Ben and I kind of switched off, uh, running the, uh, running the video boards, which allowed us to kind of walk around the show a little bit. I got to see a lot more of it than I did last year, which was great. Um, but yeah, man, just just an unbelievable event, I loved it. What was your take? Well, we were we were busy. I mean, we had a lot going on. Uh, as per last year, uh, we were hired to do all the stage video for the the big screens that flanked the main stage. Um, I was tasked with emceeing along with our friend Tim Strange, uh, doing interviews and, uh, announcements and all that kind of fun stuff. Did the music playlist for it again this year. Um, and that's where you and I and uh, and of course, Ben Koopman, who has rejoined the V8 team after, uh, four, four year hiatus, um, on VA TV production side. So that's really fun. It is really fun. Ben back. Yeah. Me too, man. And, uh, out, out in the actual show as an exhibitor, um, we had a lot of our other team mates. Kelly was there, and and, uh, Jeff, our painter, and his daughter Meg and his wife, Christy and Joe, our sales guy. And Ziggy was there? Yep. Uh, Isaac and his girlfriend Isaac, our interior guy. Because we had a booth space with the, um, Capcom's Camaro on display. Yeah, man, that was pretty. Pretty killer. I'm glad we were able to bring something out. Yeah. Me too. And and, you know, in this world. As soon as a car is finished, we generally don't have the luxury of touring it around or or futzing with it because the owner wants it back. You know, they've waited. In some cases. They waited a long time to get this car built and it's like, hey, send it home. And we we were on track to to bring something else that wasn't quite finished yet. So by sheer happenstance, the Capcom's Camaro was back in our possession, uh, having to chase down a power draw that was killing the battery when it was parked. And that was kind of a Sherlock Holmes project, too. I couldn't believe the answer that that turned out to be our mechanic team. Nailed it for sure. They're amazing. Yeah. So, you know, the the caretaker of the comp cams Camaro is deep in automotive and is not, you know, unfamiliar with any of this stuff. And the car kept going dead. So he's checking all the usual suspects. Is it a light? Is it the glove box light? You know. Is it some kind of, you know, ECM? Is still running or, you know, there's something strange on the battery drawer. And he couldn't. He couldn't get it. You know, he just kept putting batteries in this thing and putting it on the charger and take it off the charger, and it'd be dead in a few days. And I think at the end of the day, what we learned is that there was a relay in the starter circuit off the column that was stuck, right. It had, over time, stuck in the closed position and allowed for a current draw. Ain't that something, man? It's like, how do they find stuff like that? It's flippin crazy. That would make me just lose my mind looking for something like that. Well, it is a challenge. And you really start at the end, and you just narrow circuit by circuit by circuit by circuit. And then, you know, to me, I would I would end up looking at the steering column like it's a steering column. Right, right. If the horns not blowing and the turn signals not stuck on. Really? What could it be? Um. Right. They dug a little deeper and and remembered. Trevor remembered when we put that car together, which was, like, almost like ten years ago now. Yeah. Um, that the, uh, the column that was in it had a, uh, relay system. So he called the manufacturer to find out that they don't do that anymore, because apparently it might have been problematic. Uh, so do tell. Yeah, we got to update it with the current system, and that took care of the. Oh. Good deal. You know, so that was good. Yeah. Right on man. That car looked good out there, too. That's why the car was in our possession. And, uh, the Triple Crown of riding is in Nashville, Tennessee, and the car lives In Tennessee, also right near Memphis. That's where Capcom is, you know, used to be. Mhm. Uh, so we talked to the, uh, the caretaker of the car and, and said, hey, rather than coming all the way up to our shop and picking it up and dragging it home, I said, why don't you just pick it up from the event? And he's like, sure, great. Take it. You know, and it was really, really cool because that was unusual for us to have a finished car in our possession for a little bit of time. Right. And during that time, uh, we had a potential customer who came to us with that really cool sixty nine Dodge Charger. And she wants us to to build this car, but she's not super familiar with muscle cars or these type of projects. So by the grace of the owner, um, a couple of our guys were We're able to give this potential customer an experience of some ride alongs using the comp Cams Camaro as an example of like what these things can be like. And I know that. And she knows that a sixty nine Camaro with a four hundred and fifty plus cubic inch lsx motor making six hundred and ninety horsepower on a custom subframe and four link suspension and all that, is not a sixty nine charger. No. No, sir. But, um, she was hooked. You know, she had so much fun, uh, cruising around in that car. And how could you not, you know. Right. So, uh, as soon as, you know, they they it was Trevor and and Ziggy and Joe, um, gave her the ride alongs. It did a bunch of things. It got her excited about the concept of having a special car like this. And then it was like, well, what can we do, you know, to make it. I don't want it to be as loud as this one, but I want it to be loud. And, you know, this kind of seat and whatever. So she was really able to try something on, and now we can tailor her project to what she wants. Yeah, she's got some benchmarks and now she can work from that. Yeah. So that was really cool. And you know, Joe, our sales guy, and I were kind of joking. It's like it's almost the equivalent of me saying, hey, um, I want to sail around the world and I'm going to spend a whole bunch of money to have you guys build me a boat. But I've never been in a boat before. Right? That just is a recipe for disaster. So for sure, again, by getting her this, uh, this ride along, especially in such a cool car. Um, it was great. And it allowed us to connect with her and, you know, get to know her and her husband a little bit more and find out, you know, kind of really what what she digs because, uh, you know, it's not always easy to tell somebody what you like. But if you're going around turns and giggling and screaming and having a fun time, it's a more obvious, right? Right. We got to make this one handle. Well. Check. Note to self. Right on man. Yeah. That, uh, that was really a happy accident that we happen to have the car there, and, you know, we were able to do what we did for. So I think that really helped us out quite a bit on that job. Well, and we were discussing we didn't know we were going to have that car there when this idea came up. Right. Because it was supposed to go home and, and we're talking like, what? What can we give her a ride in that we had and we did have a sixty six charger on hand at the time, but we all kind of agreed that this bone stock. Three eighty three sixty six charger. It's a great car. Yeah, but it's not a modified performance. You know, it's not going to blow your hair back. Yeah, right. Um, I mean, it does, but it's again, a sixty six does have bucket seats, but they're flat. You know, I'm sure it's got the this particular one has the stock suspension in it. So there's, you know body roll of a late sixties car. We want to really kind of show her what was possible and not like here's how they were. Yeah. Isn't this great. Yeah. As you as you you know, pick her up off the street from sliding out the door right as you lumber down the road, going around corners. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. So. But then when we learned that the, uh, the cop car was going to be there, it was like, oh, yeah, let's do that. So that worked out well. Yeah, man. Yeah. So car's been really, really good to us. It has. And and that was kind of a long way of saying that, you know, it was on display at the Triple Crown. So that was cool. And that kept our team jumping, answering questions about that. And then, um, one thing that I really like about the Triple Crown is, you know, they've got I don't remember what the final number was. Close to one hundred and seventy vendors, I think. Wow. Oh, it's a it's a load of vendors and that includes builders. And it includes manufacturers. Um, but there's no like, you know, flea market tool guy. Right, right, right. There's nobody with, like, a face painting booth. You know, it's all legit. Car and hot rod and muscle car, uh, builders and performance stuff. So this, to me, is really turning into a great B2B event, for sure. Definitely. So many industry professionals are are at that show. Yeah. Not just builders, but suppliers. And I've heard you say it and a few other people say it that it's turning into like a mini Sema show. And I think that's a great thing. It is? Yeah. For I mean, especially for the builder and the business owner, it's it's phenomenal. Well, it's kind of a it's a niche event. Exactly. Yes. You don't have the, uh, all. I mean, the Sema show represents the entire entirety of the aftermarket, right? Yeah. And this is hot rod stuff. So if you're in the hot rod world, that's where you want to be. Sure. And, uh, it's also very cool because the Sema aria, the Hot Rod Industry Alliance does a happy hour there at the Triple Crown. You know, they they're like, oh, yeah, this is where our people are, you know. So they want to be part of it. So, um, our friend Mark Bullard. Bullard performance Transmissions hosts that, uh, where you can hang out for a while and have a drink and learn, you know, connect with other Aria people or learn about what the HRA does. Uh, if you want to join and get involved. So. So, yeah, there is that, uh, Professional. It's a professional grade hot rod show, for sure. Sure. Um, but then it's also an awesome consumer level event because, yep, all these companies are are selling stuff. And, you know, you got the car show, you can bring whatever you got. And, you know, Brian Wittenmyer, our esteemed parts guy, and his brother Kyle and his parents came and yeah, you know, they were they were participants this year in the participants. Yeah, they're they're certainly part of our crew. But they brought their own stuff, their own cars and everything and really had a good time. And yeah, it was, uh, it's a special event. It really is. Yeah. Brian. He's awesome. He he says, uh, I don't care how it happens, but I'm going to be at the Triple Crown either. Either either I'm going with the shop or I'm taking vacation and I'm going on my own. But that's where I'm going to be on these dates. So plan for that. That's it. Yep. Like Okie dokie. And through him, you know, his dad loaned us his aluminum trailer that we used to haul the Camaro with, uh, because our box trailer is indisposed, so that was very cool of him to do that. Um, and then it was fun. We all got to go out to eat, right? A few nights, and, uh, you picked up a new, new nickname? Yes, that I did. Let's see if we can set the stage here for this. So we're in. We're in Nashville. End of the day, Friday. The show is only two days. Friday, Saturday. Brian has this ace in the hole barbecue joint that he likes to go to. We've been there before. It's really good. What's it called? Nick. And or something. Something like that. I can't remember the exact name, so it's good. Nick and Bob or something like that, I don't know. Yeah. Two guys barbecue, right? And, uh, we first make a reservation and they don't really take reservations. So we kind of gave them a warning and we're like, yeah, we're bringing fourteen people. And Brian's text response was, uh, the the the hostess accepted that, but there was no smiling in her voice. There was no smile in their voice. Yeah. Oh. That's amazing. So we halfway take this place over and, uh, we're all going around the table ordering whatever we're going to order. And it comes to Mr. Cueball, who throws the gauntlet down and orders the two pounds of ribs. Yeah. I mean, why not? Yeah. And. And Ben was right there with you, right? So he. Right. Same thing. Well, that's that's funny, because Ben didn't really hear the the quantity I ordered. He just heard ribs. And, uh, so I said, I'll take the two pounds of ribs with a side of fries, and Ben's like, oh, yeah, all the same thing. I'm like, Ben, my man. So Yeah, but Ben, he also metered it across several days. He did? Hey, I ain't no quitter, man. I'm the part of the Clean Plate club. And that was impressive. You did clean the plate. And at which point Kelly nicknamed you meat pie. That woman looked me dead in the eyes, like. How's it going there? Meat pie? Oh, boy. Good times. That was pretty hilarious. It was. And it was good. Oh, yeah. Like a trooper. You know, you you you held it together all day Saturday. The next day after. Oh, for sure, for sure. It's what I do, man. I'm a big truck. I need lots of gas. Yeah. So Saturday at the event, uh, it was pouring down rain until about one or two o'clock. And, uh, in the afternoon, as you mentioned, um, on Friday, they, they pick the top thirty basically, and then they all get invited back for Saturday where they're on display at which later on in the afternoon is the actual award ceremony, and we award the fifteen or so Celebrity Pick Awards and then the actual Triple Crown winners. So, um, Street truck and street machine and, and uh, Street Cruiser of the year basically, uh, get, get awarded. And this event was cool too, because once again, there was a charity benefactor, uh, who was, uh, the Gary Sinise Foundation. Gary Sinise was even there. The Lieutenant Dan Band played a concert, the whole thing. Yeah, man, I wish I'd have got to see it, but, uh, we were busy. We were busy. Uh, Gary Case told me that with the auctions, the fifty fifty and all the nonsense. He said they raised about seventy seven thousand dollars. All right. Yeah. Huge. Bigger than last year. Yeah. Not too shabby. Right on. Yeah. That's a lot of money for a two day thing. That is a lot of money. So credit. And it rained. Exactly. So I know they were trying to capture that lightning in a bottle like they did last year for the auction. That didn't. It didn't quite ignite. But I think, you know, the rain kept a lot of people away. So that was going to be tough to to repeat that. But we had a good showing. And, um, I know, uh, Chip Foose was auctioning, uh, renderings off and, uh, I know, uh, I know, uh, Dave Kindig wasn't there. He was in England, but he he recorded a video message encouraging people to, uh, you know, give from the heart and, uh, and, uh, take care of this foundation. So that was nice. Um, blueprint engines again gave away. Oh, yeah, they sure did. And, uh, they gave away the the truck that was customized at Bobby Alloway shop. Yeah, the Triple Crown itself gave away the truck. Yeah. Right. Right. Brand new Chevy. Very cool pickup truck. Yeah. So, yeah, lots of chances to win. Of course, there was, uh, the Pinstriper auction. The, uh, crazy paint guys were there, and that's really. It's something else, man. I mean, all these pinstripers come from all over the country, and they they prepare these works on their own time, their own dime. They don't. They don't get paid to be there. They donate their pinstriping artwork, or you can hand them something and they'll stripe it right there for you. Right. And then auction that for the Speedway children's charities. So it's just it's a super generous group. And, um, it's good to see how much they raise because it's that the Sinise Foundation is a great one. And, uh, and the Speedway Children's Charities is also a really, really great cause. So, you know, it's kind of a feel good event for the whole family. It really is. It really is. Yeah. So it's like watching a full house marathon. Way to go, Uncle Jesse. Yeah, but a lot cooler, right? So, yeah, that was, uh, that was one heck of a weekend. So, yeah. And our team that that went, um, everybody was very inspired by the awesome cars and by talking to different manufacturers, like you're saying and connecting with people in the industry. I know, uh, Isaac and the interior shop was jazzed up about seeing a lot of stuff and. Right. Uh, it's fun because he, you know, he's he's got a lot of great ideas, and, uh, his time is being filled, but, uh, it's great. People call up or they, they go on our website at shop.com and you can just fill out the form and it's like, I want custom interior by Isaac, and we'll make it happen. You got it simple right now's a good time because he's super jazzed up with all these great ideas that he saw of, you know, he's, you know, really top level high end show cars. So. Right. Yeah. Who did Isaac got to speak with somebody there that he really. Isaac got to spend time with Adam Banks of. That's right. Adam Banks from Rad rights. And Adam is like from Planet Car. Yeah, just from a different universe. Because he's the fabricator. He's the upholstery guy. He's the he does the electrical wiring. He does a lot of the design. And they had their thirty six Ford quote unquote roadster. Mhm. Um, which won the Triple Crown. It sure did. One of the most amazing cars ever built. Every piece fabricated. There's no there's no AutoZone thirty six Ford parts on that. Uh, and Adam is just such a great guy. I mean, Troy is a great guy. The whole rad rides family are A great friend of ours. But Adam saw, um, Isaac, you know, kind of checking out the interior. And I don't know how much time he spent with him. He literally just went up to him and and started they just started chatting about how he did it. And, you know, all the questions, got all the answers. And we thank him for taking that time. Oh, man, that was so cool of him. Yeah, yeah, I know Isaac was really jazzed about all that. Yeah, to be able to have at least an hour with a guy who's one of the greatest in the world. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Just to hang out with and look at things. And, you know, the great thing was Isaac was like, you know, zoned in on this car. He was honed in on it. It wasn't like, so you're Adam Banks? Yeah. Do you like baseball? It wasn't that. I was like, how did you do this plead over here. Right. All that stuff. Right. And then meanwhile, Troy Trepanier was sitting there chatting with, um, Jeff or painter and his daughter Meg. Oh, right. And he was like. So Troy had worked with his dad, Jack at Rad Rides. So he knows what it's like working with your dad. And he looks at Meg. Meg's been on our team for two years now in the paint side, learning from her dad, and she's killing it. Doing a great job. Jeff always does a great job. Yes. So, uh, Troy's like. Oh, yeah, you're working with your dad, huh? And she's like, yep, yep. And he goes, well, let's give this another year and a half or so. When he gets sick of him, then you can come down to our shop. Oh man. And Jeff's like, no, no. She's like, nope, I'm staying nice working with my dad. And Troy's like, oh, there's something wrong there. You people are crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, that is so cool, man. Yeah, I, I did get to talk to Troy for, like, two seconds, but super nice guy, um, you know, greet you like he's known you for years, so. Yeah, solid, solid cat. So, speaking of solid cat, Hat. Do we have any update on the GTO? Oh well, a whole lot's happened to the GTO since the last time we talked. So the last time we talked, last time we had an episode, I had taken it to the, uh, the power tour. Uh, Joliet. Stop. Right. The award winning GTO. The award winning GTO. That's right. I had won my first car show award. Right? Are we talking about the Triple Crown here? I'm thinking maybe next year. Yeah, well. We'll see. Um, so anyway, we we we've had a an incident with the, the old, uh, GTO, um, so last month or so. Incident. An incident? Yeah. It's not pretty. Um, so my wife texted me one day, uh, during the work day, and she's like, can you stop at the store and pick up, you know, XYZ for dinner? I'm like, sure. So lunchtime rolls pounds of ribs for you? Yeah, a couple of pounds of ribs, please. Yeah. A little some applesauce and, uh. And, uh, I'll have a salad. Yeah. So lunchtime rolls around, and at the time, my my kids were home from college. Um, Grace was gone doing something, and Abby was borrowing my suburban, uh, and she was out with her friends, so I'm like, hey, I'll hop in the GTO, fire it up, go to the store, which is just a mile away, not, you know, not a far distance. So I fire it up and and I think I detect I think I hear a miss, I think I hear it missing, but I'm not quite sure. And, um, so I give it a little gas to see if it'll. I don't know if it's a fouled plug or something to see if it'll smooth out, you know, maybe twelve, fifteen hundred rpm. I run it up to nothing crazy because I just I just turned it on and I don't want to, you know, go to six grand right away. Yeah. And, uh, as I'm at that RPM, I just hear this loud bang and just bam, bam, bam, bam bam inside that engine. And I shut it down immediately, and I I'm just motionless. I'm like, what the heck just happened? So I get out, I open the hood, I look underneath the car. I don't see any fluids draining. I don't see any, any, any new ventilation in the block or, or any other sheet metal or anything. So I'm like this and it sounded really, really bad. So I just I'm like, let me just see if I can turn the engine over. I, I turn the key and the engine's locked up. It's not even turning. I'm like, yeah, well, this is not great. So I go back in, I'm like, I just forget about it for a little bit. You know, I think I told you about it. And uh, the next couple days I went out and just trying to figure out what may have went wrong, I, I started pulling the spark plugs out on the driver's side. Those are the easiest to get to. Pulled out number one looked really good. Pulled out number three. And it's obliterated. I mean, it's just crushed. I'm like, well, I think I found my I think I found my my my hole here. I think I found found what was going on. So I took I removed the valve cover and I took the intake rocker arm off, and the exhaust rocker arm was cocked over a little bit further than normal. It was hard to get the socket on the adjuster nut to to back it off, but I was able to do it and as I did it, I was greeted with the area where there used to be an exhaust valve which which there was no longer. So I dropped a valve right in the cylinder at like fifteen hundred rpm and kablooey. It just went like a game of pachinko. It was just ricocheting around in there. Um, so I did a little more checking, and I pulled the oil dipstick out and my oil level was extremely high on the dipstick tube. So that that was a bad sign. I opened the radiator. Not a drop of coolant to be found. So I'm like, ah. So something broke something. Either I cracked the cylinder or punched a hole in the head or something. So I don't quite know yet. Uh, I started the process of starting to take things apart. I drained the fluids. You know, I, I have one of those big, like, a big five gallon drain pan. And I pulled the, um, the, the lower radiator hose off, and, you know, maybe a quarter gallon of fluid of coolant came out. Just what was left in the level of the block and the radiator. and I pulled my oil pan plug out into my oil pan receptacle, and I had about a good 30s of really pretty laminar flow coolant coming out of the oil pan, just draining away, man, until I honest to God, 30s till the oil started coming up behind it. I'm like, ah, this is bad news. Yeah. That blows. Yeah. Oh man that sucks. That does suck man. So valve keeper. Yeah. So I, I took a bunch of pictures and you know, the valve keeper itself, it looked like it just just gave up. You can see it's kind of sheared down where the ridges would be that are supposed to hold the valve stem in place. And they're just they're gone. And you could see where the top of the rocker arm of the Yeah. The rocker arm was imprinting into the top of the retainer that retainer cap. So that valve had been slipping down and allowing that rocker arm to make contact with it. Um, with the top of the retainer. And it's once you you line everything up. It's it's it's a perfect puzzle. It's, you know, the forensics are unmistakable as to what was happening. So, so it's just so it's just a part failure. I mean, it wasn't a workmanship failure or anything like that. It was just. Just bad luck. Certainly weren't overrevving it at fifteen hundred? No, no, not at all. And that had a I, and I never overrevved it anyway because I had like a four thousand five hundred rpm redline set on the on the MSD distributor. So I never went crazy with that engine. So. Ah, well, that's a bummer. Yeah, it's not the greatest thing to have happen. But what we're building u n l s r. G. Look at the time, I gotta go. No, but however, if I am thinking of opportunities to upgrade a few things. So if, um, if it is ahead. Well, even if it's not, I want to get a set of aluminum heads for this thing. Um, I'll probably have to get a new set of pistons, which is going to mean I'll probably have to, um, bore the cylinders out a little bit more. Right now, it's currently at thirty five over and thirty five over. Pistons really aren't readily available. These were these were special order and it took forever to get here. Um, so if I have to board over forty, over which I know a competent machine shop that can get the work done for me. That's right man. Yeah, we can do that. How about that? So if I bring it down there, I. I was never really happy of how of the the quench height or the compression height of the pistons in this engine. They were, I think like twenty, twenty four thou in the whole. And it's just way too much. I wanted it to be down there. Yeah. At most five thou in the hole is what I wanted, uh, just to give a good quench and get a good, efficient burn. And so this will let me at least get a different set of pistons. And I if I have to deck the block, I can deck the block a little bit to get where I really want it to be. And, uh, and really get this things dialed in the way I've always wanted it. So. So some good can come from this. It's just going to take some time and a little effort and a little money. And, um, that's just how it's going to be from now on. So. Well, so the nice thing about that is you. You hit the nail on the head. You can bring pieces to the to our machine shop, to our engine shop. You know, if one, if one time you want to bring the heads down one time you want to bring the long block down or whatever. Uh, because being having an in-house engine shop at the place where you work, you know, hey, certainly store your stuff there during the build process. Right? And, uh, the crack team of, uh, you know, Cory Kelly and and, uh, Ethan Hine down there can, uh, can get the work done. Um, which which would be even cooler to have you come down there and do it with them. Yeah, that would be cool. That's that thought has entered my mind. Yeah. They just finished up a big Pontiac motor. Yeah. Finishing up. Yep. Finishing up. Mhm. So yeah. Big uh for twenty eight. Um it's been stroked and board. It's a four sixty two now. Mhm. Yeah. It's a cool engine. So um, so yeah. Um, so yeah I still have to, you know, take it all apart and figure out what's what I gotta. I wanted just to pull the engine out, but I can't rotate it because it's locked. So I got to pull the, the intake and the, at least the driver's side head off and remove the valve so I can at least rotate the engine to get the the torque converter, unbolted and all that good stuff. Mhm. Mhm. So yeah. So I just been kind of putting it off a little bit. Just been just still a little bit bummed. But uh I'll get motivated here shortly and get something going. So by our next show I'll have a little have some more updates. That's right. Do you know, do we have any other Pontiac core engines at the shop right now? Yeah, we do, But they're they're they're no good there. Um, I think they were all from late seventies Firebirds or Trans AMS, and they're all low compression, four hundreds, low compression, four hundred seconds with thin mains. Yeah, but my point is, what if you threw one of those in to just drive it around while your other built. That's that's an idea. Not a terrible idea. You know, not to say that seeing an open hole under the hood is a good motivator. You know, and if right, if the car still drives around, you know, it's not quite as much of a motivator. But I know that these things take time to build the resources to be able to build them. So yeah, if that's an option, that might be an option. Yeah, that might be. I thought we had two or three of those four hundreds. Yeah I think I think we do. And they were complete. They were just carved to Pan Takeouts. Right, Right. And I think we're going to have another one pretty soon too, because we're going to tear down another Trans Am pretty soon, doing an anniversary car with, uh, one of those engines we won't mention is going, yeah, the engine that shall not be mentioned. Well, you know, it sucks, but it's it's life, man. It happens. So it does happen. And and you didn't. God bless. Didn't have a crash or nobody got hurt. Yeah. Just a failure. Just a failure. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So this, uh, this past weekend, I got a little time to, uh, to work on the Galaxy. Did you now? Yes. And that that this car, it's right behind me. So I say this, um, it's getting better and better. It's just I'm in that refining process, you know, of, like, little annoyances. Um. just kind of knocking them out one by one. And, uh, I think since we last talked about this car, uh, one of our previous conversations was that I was very happy with the tilt column and the borgeson steering box. Yeah. And how it drove and steered and, um. Which I still am, but I did notice that it had. It required a little bit more assist than I wanted. Okay. You know, the steering was it's super tight. And so you gotta understand, there's a difference between, you know, precision steering and the amount of assist or effort you have to put into turning the wheel. Right. So, like your GTO, a lot of GM cars from the sixties. In fact, this car, when it was new, you know, it had that one finger steering. Yeah, it was real. And you felt kind of disconnected from the from the road because you had a steering gear ratio that took a lot of turns. Couple that with low effort, and it's just kind of like you're just driving down the road like, you know, steering a ship, right? Pretty much. And the, the borgeson steering gear is a faster ratio. So it tightened that up. Plus it's new and precise. So there's no slop in the steering. So when you make a movement, something happens. But I did just feel like I wanted a touch more power assist and, uh, talk to our friends at Borgeson, Mr. Jeff Grantmyre, who steered me in the direction of one of their pressure. Pressure control kits. Uh, so the the pressure valve has shims that you can add or subtract really by by adding the shims, it reduces the pump pressure. And by taking shims away, you increase the pump output pressure. So, um, I ended up trying a couple different shim combinations and eventually just I removed them all, Which makes this pump now generate one thousand three hundred and fifty psi at at full squirt. All the pressure. Um, yeah. And then I went one step farther. And our friend, uh, Paul Clarke at Hydrotech Brakes, uh, had told me once about the orifice size. Um, so the hole in that valve in the the output, and, you know, kind of what you want for a street car versus, you know, the trucks have like a, a large size orifice. And the cars were, you know, eighth inch or so. So I upsized that orifice by basically one, one drill bit size. So I think I moved her from one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and twenty eight fifty. Okay. And then took those shims out and you'll be proud of me before I went down this road. I enlisted the power of a artificial intelligence engine. Ooh. I told it or asked it. I said, well, if it the rating at one hundred and twenty five thou orifice size was supposed to be two point one gallons per minute at one thousand psi. So Borgeson supplies a chart that says, this shim gives you nine hundred. You know, the whole stack of shims gives you like eight seventy five or something. And then you take the shims out and you're at thirteen fifty. So I asked grok, the artificial intelligence tool, if I'm running thirteen hundred and fifty psi and I up that orifice from one twenty five thou to one twenty eight fifty, what's my GPM flow rating? Oh, it did all the math and it said, you're going to go from two point one gallons per minute to like two point three five or so, which was great. It's just enough. I just want a little bit. Yeah. Because you start to get up near three and it's overpowering. Oh, okay. You then you're back to that wonder touch power steering effort or you're blowing hoses off, or you're doing stuff you don't want to do. Right. So I drilled it out, took the shim out, put it all back together again. And I also took the opportunity because my steering wheel wasn't straight. Mhm. And the steering wheel wasn't straight because my last project in the column was fixing the horn. You remember that story? Yeah, I do remember that. Um, so I put it all back together, took it for a drive. The steering is absolutely perfect. Nice man is perfect. I love it. Input. It is super precise. You can drive it comfortably, but it's predictable. You know what's going on? It is. That's the spec for the known universe right now. For me. Right on. I mean, is that good? I'm like, this is wonderful. It's a brand new car. It's better in many ways. Well, good deal man. But I missed with my steering wheel again. Oh, no. It's still off. I must have been like about two, two splines or so off the other way. Yeah. So I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, how did I miss. Right. And then I do a little more research and find out that the hub adapter for my grant steering wheel to my idiotic column. Yeah. Uh, needs a modification. Actually had to drill a hole in the wheel so that you can clock it in a certain way so that the. Because the other problem was the turn signals weren't canceling equally. Oh, dude, I have the same problem. It makes me nuts. Yeah. So mine. You'd have to go. Like, if the steering wheel straight at at nine and three, you know, your hands are at nine and three. You'd have to to to make the turn signals cancel on a left turn. You'd have to turn like your right hand from three o'clock all the way back to like eleven. Oh, my. And then it would, then it would finally click. But if you're going to turn right, you could move the steering wheel like one hour, you know, just like from nine to ten. Yeah. Yes. Right. Yes. Yeah. Mine does the same stuff. Yeah, well, it's because you got to synchronize your column. Clearly I do. And when you look at. So you have a stock column but you've got an aftermarket wheel, right. Yes. That grant wheel. Yeah. Yeah. And what I learned is that the hub adapter, um, it's a little deceiving because it's got, it's it's a cast aluminum piece in my case. And it actually says top with an arrow pointing up. But if you put it in that position, the steering wheel doesn't square up. So you got to rotate the the adapter a little bit. But the manual says where the horn connection is, the little spring and the horn contactor is supposed to be like at ten o'clock on the clock position. Um, but mine was like at one pm. It was on the other side because of the way this thing laid out, until I read deeper and found out that no, you got to drill a hole in the steering wheel, and then you can turn that thing back to where the cancel mechanism is at ten o'clock. Really? So once I did that, I could put the wheel on straight and I could. I got equal turning. Uh, signal cancellation, rotation degrees. Oh, nice. Uh, but I kind of eyeballed if my wheels were straight or not, and, um, I missed, so the steering wheel is still off instead of being nice and level. You know, it's probably an hour and a half off on the clock position. Not terrible. So you can live with that for another fifteen years before you decide to really fix it, right? Well, this I'm not going to do because, you know, I have a new attitude. Um, I'm going to take it to the shop and put it on the alignment rack and have Danny, our, uh, our alignment, uh, guru, um, square the whole car up and check the alignment and make sure tire pressure is all correct. And then we'll pull the wheel off and clock it. All right. Being documented electronically with laser precision accuracy. Oh my goodness. Hawkeye for post alignment system. Who is this man doing things the right way. Oh my goodness. It's not that I didn't do it the right way. It's just that I didn't really have the time. And like you say, you get to the point where you're like, ah, that's fine. I don't really feel like digging into it. Yeah, but the new attitude part is, well, what I'm going to do is I'm going to live with it for the next four days or whatever it is. Contact the guys at the shop and the in the in that quadrant of the building and get on the schedule and say hey at lunchtime or something. Not to disturb workflow. Mhm. That particular rack is a very popular one and there's always something on it. So I'm not just gonna push things out of the way. So I'm just trying to get in the rotation so that we can get this thing straightened out, literally. Well cool man. And then it will be visually perfect as well as performance. Perfect. So nice. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. You gotta share with me what to do about that. Um. That hole that you have to drill. Maybe I need to do that as well. You might. Yeah. And I found it, um, on the Borgeson website under the universal adapter instructions. And it literally, it calls out the Grant steering wheel adapter kit because this column, even though it's in a Ford, it's a GM head, so it's probably the same one. Oh, I got you. Yeah, maybe. Huh. Interesting. But it was a nice little victory because you need those every once in a while. Yes. Those little victories are very sweet. Right. When they. When they happen. When they need to happen. Yeah. So good deal. Congratulations. I'm glad you're back on the road to straight and true steering. Yeah. And so here's another fun one. Several years ago we we talked about how the the amplifier and the under-seat subwoofer in my seventy Buick quit and I couldn't figure out why. And it turned out that the aluminum the copper plated aluminum power wire had corroded. Do you remember that story? Vaguely. Yeah. So the right at the battery connection, if you open the hood and you look at this, you're like, this is fine. It's got this heavy gauge read stranded audio gauge audio, you know, quality power cable. What's the problem? And just like trying to figure out that Camaro steering column thing, I'm running the meter and from from the power post right past the beginning of that cable, there was nothing. And I'm looking at the cable. I'm like, how could this be nothing? How could this not be conducting where? Eight inches into the run. And I stuck a power probe into the into the into the wiring of the wire. And there's no current going through it. Oh, man. Well, what had happened is it was cheap aluminum wire with copper coating. Ah. And all the aluminum corroded inside well enough to have no connection at all. Right. So I just snipped off like, you know, a couple feet of it and dumped it out, and it worked perfectly. So eventually I changed the whole wire to some actual stranded copper. So the reason why I bring this up is in the galaxy under the back seat is an amplifier that I installed probably twenty five years ago. that quit at one point. And, uh, I brought the van home because I wanted to do some work on the van. And I'm planning an audio system for the van, and I've got some of the stuff. And this is one of these deals where the van is the size of an apartment building, and there's no place to put anything in it. Oh, yeah. That's brilliant. Yeah, it's really hard to explain, but there's nowhere to put amplifiers because the whole thing is open except for the upholstery and the seats and the stuff, you know, and there's no room for the whatever. So I got all these, this audio gear on the shelf, and I thought, you know what? I've always been curious. My galaxy is a convertible, and it's got speakers in the doors. And what happens if I put a couple of subs in the trunk? Are they going to do anything? Are you going to hear them? You know what's what's the story. So I had this dual twelve inch sub enclosure with an amp that I got for the van. So one day I take the sub box and I throw it in the trunk, and I take my TMI backseat out of the galaxy. And I'm looking at this amplifier and I'm like, why don't you work? Because it quit. Well, it doesn't work because the same thing happened. The copper wire corroded. Get out of here. Yeah, the aluminum wire. So, yeah, I ran a new piece. Copper wire. Boom. AMP comes right back to life. Well, well, well, exactly. So I connect the speakers in the trunk and put the seat back in and take it for a drive, and it's it's there. It's not like what you'd expect. I mean, I don't know what you'd expect, but it's not like the sub is pounding, you know, like in a right. It doesn't feel like it's got two twelves in the trunk. Okay. It's not rattling the license plate or anything like that. No, it's not doing like that. So then I realized that I probably have the input level mismatched. So I do some research on this radio that's in the dash. It's this Sony thing that I bought at a Kelly, and I bought it at Best Buy on a road trip and installed it in the parking lot. Nice. In twenty ten. Yeah. And I look up the, uh, what's the output voltage of the subwoofer output? Well, it's two volts. And I didn't have the input sensitivity set to match two volts. Oh, okay. So I crank it up. I can't see because I don't have my eyes suck with my mike. I wear contacts to see distance. So up close, things are hard to see. And I didn't have my little cheater glasses with me, so I just kind of turned the screw. Put everything back together. Take it for a ride. I get it sounds awesome. I mean, it's you can feel it. You can hear it. It quits. Ah, damn. So I'm like, well, now I blew it up, right? Right. Um, what ended up happening is I decreased the sensitivity way too far, and I was pushing far more voltage into the amp than it could get rid of. So I put my glasses on, reset it to the right matching voltage, and thankfully I could put a fuse back in it and oh, okay. So just just blew a fuse. That's fine. Yeah. But now we're back to I can't quite hear this, you know. Whatever. Uh, so I'm kind of looking at the, the acoustical lay of the land and yes, it's a giant convertible with the top down. How much are you really going to hear? But when the convertible top goes down, it goes into what they call the well, the top. Well, sure. Which now is like if you took a bunch of moving blankets and folded them up, that's what that is like. It's like a sound. Deadener. Yeah, yeah. So I open up the trunk and I took, uh, I had some cardboard boxes laying around that I folded both ends inward so it retained the box shape, but the the ends were open. Um, and I slid them under the convertible top. So now that there's, there's a passage that goes from the trunk. Oh no kidding. Into the just as a test, you know, into the cabin. And it doubled the subwoofer volume. Oh, wow. Yeah. So so that was kind of cool because now it's like, long term. You know, I just need to make a shelf that the top folds down onto. Okay. To keep some air space so that the sound waves can go through into the, into the basically into the, into the, into the backseat at this point. But. Sure. The galaxy had a single speaker in the rear seat. Right. That the speaker is no longer there. So that's like a port. That's ah, you can't feel it, but you can certainly hear it coming through that. Okay. So here I am. You know, this thing steers straight. It sounds good. The horn works. The horn works. Turn signals cancel properly. The turn signals cancel properly. The idle is spot on because I cleaned the mass MAF sensor. Right. This car is doing good. Nice, man. It's almost ready to completely blow apart and restore. Yeah. Here it is. Here it is. Well, well, we have to get you into the rotation. All the mechanical is, like, almost, almost dialed, you know. Umhmm. Oh, man. We'll have to get it up on the rack and do a full inspection on it, and then we'll we'll tell you how good the mechanicals are. Well, it had a weird rattle. I remember one day I sent you a video clip of a rattle. Yes. And you're like. It sounds like exhaust. Yeah. It turns out an exhaust hanger bolt fell out, so that was an easy fix. Good deal. And, uh. Yeah. Um, the valve train got quiet. I put twenty fifty in it, and that quieted the valves down quite a bit. So, I mean, these little, little things make a big, big difference. They sure do. They pay big dividends, man. Especially when they work. Especially when they work. Yes. That's the clutch right there. That's the key. Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, that is good. The, uh, the the stupid two barrel on the van is trying to just drive me completely out of my mind. Oh, that's still giving you troubles. It's the second one. It's been rebuilt. They've all been rebuilt too many times. And I had it perfect. Choke was perfect. Started. You could let the thing sit for a month. Give it one little push to the floor. Turn the key. It would light. It would run at high idle. You'd start driving. It would come down off. Idles warmed up exactly what it was supposed to step on it. I re-engineered the accelerator pump arm. It didn't stumble. It was like golden. Nice. And then the next day. It's not. Ah, jeez. Ah, man. Sputtering and farting and coughing and just not running. And I was like, really? What the hell? And, you know, the first thing I found is that the distributor cap was loose. So I'm surprised it ran at all because it was like half off. Oh, jeez. Put that back together again and then take it for a cruise. Runs great again next day. Nothing, huh? And it was not the distributor cap the second time. It's the. This carburetor. It's so loose from being rebuilt so many times. You know, they just. It doesn't have any precision to the linkage anymore. Oh, that's a bummer, man. Yeah, and you got to take the doghouse off. And the air cleaner, you know, all that stuff. You can't just open the hood and. Right. Reach in there. So. Yeah. It's got more engine inside than outside on that car. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think we had discussed at one point on this show, I don't remember, but, uh, I'm kind of thinking my long term plan is to find a ninety eight through oh three, uh, Dodge van, right, with the aluminum head, five point nine roller motor. There you go with the overdrive. Boom, bam! POW! If I buy a used van, I get the mounts, I get the tranny mount, I get the drive shaft, I get, uh, all the stuff and then resist the urge. You know, I'll probably take it apart. And, you know, depending on what I find, if I find something with fifty thousand miles on it, I probably won't touch it. But if it's got more, we'll run it through the shop, wring it, seal it, whatever. Mhm mhm mhm. So we'll see. That sounds like a nice plan. Me likey. We'll find out. Yeah. We'll find out at the end of the show. Oh Lord. Yeah for sure. Yeah. Well I will, uh, kind of leave you with one more quick thought. And that is, uh, uh, we've made some improvements to the website at shop.com. And I'm not going to lie, um, some of the AI technology on the visual side has been very helpful. Um, um, um, to me, you see people that, like, create these images of cars that it's like, what the heck is that? You know? Right. It's like a GTO with two headlights on one side and one on the other, and right, right words. The badges are all in some language, it doesn't exist. And, um, you know, the profile just doesn't look right. Um, but I found a utility where if you if you give it an image of a car, an actual car, it will create that car accurately. Yes, yes. And the creative side is now knowing what to do with that. So there's a few cars that we've built over the years that I was never happy with. Some of the imagery, we got great pictures, but I didn't get like the like an oh wow kind of picture, you know. I got like, hey, that's cool. But what I, what I want is like a setting that you just want to be in. You know, like, I love that car. I love where it is. I want to be there. Right? I want that life. Yeah. Exactly. Right. That's what we all want. We got this fantasy of, like, I'm going to be cool in this car, and here's where I'm going. Um, so we've created a few of those type of images on the website, and I'm not going to say where they are. You'll have to find them. Um, but some of the landing pages of a few of the cars that we built, and I'm happy to report that the car is dead nuts to the real car for sure. It's just in this environment that we had never put it in. So. And this is the way the automakers do it. You know, if you're going to go buy a new you see a car in a commercial that's not a car, that's all digital. Mhm. Um, so it's not misrepresenting anything. It's taking this actual thing and just putting it somewhere where we haven't had it yet. Yeah, the car does exist. This is just a representation of it. Right. And then right after that is the video of us building it, and then the five thousand pictures of it, you know. Right. Yes, exactly. It's legit. It's just yet another lens that we can portray it in. And that's been a fun project because it's been fun to kind of create some of these scenarios and park these cars in fun places. Yeah, it is kind of cool. Yeah. You turn me on to that. I was I've been messing around with it a little bit too. It's been really fun. So yeah. So go to. Com and click the photos tab and have a look around and see if you can spot them and report back. Yeah. Well I mean there's some of these things are like you can't tell if you didn't know right. You wouldn't know. And again, not trying to deceive anybody, but just trying to enhance the what that experience would be, you know? Yeah, definitely. The ultimate goal would be to take those cars and put them in those actual fantasy experiences that I've been coming up with. And you saw on my Facebook page, I took the Galaxy and I parked it at this mid-century modern, you know, roadside motel that's got a pool. And the doors are different colors, and there's a tiki bar and there's a Saturn V rocket going off in the background. Yes. I mean, that's your dream scenario, man. It's pretty close. Yeah. Vintage surfboards. Yes. Oh. It's amazing. Yeah. But the car looks exact, you know. It's. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Everybody knows that's my car, you know? Yeah. It definitely faithfully reproduces it. So. Yeah, it's definitely that. And it's and it's and and it's your thoughts on there. It's your Our creativity that's displayed, not something made up. So. Right. And I think that's the difference. So like one of these images, I recreated a studio shot with like a light paint type thing. Uh, and the way the car's lit, it looks awesome, you know, but I was able to do that because I know how to do that photo and reality. I've taken those kind of shots. I understand lighting and light painting, so I just have this tool do what's in my head, right? It just does it much quicker, which is cool. Sure. No, I get it. And you won't see any three GTOs or anything. That would be helpful. Well, speaking of that. Yeah. All right, it's time to let the cat's out of the bag here. All right, all right, trivia questions. Let's do this. All right, so, Kev, I asked you, uh. Uh, Dodge, uh, produced a car that was marketed toward women. Uh, what was the name of the car? And, uh, what years was it produced? And you don't tell me it was the Belvedere. That's a Plymouth. Yeah. You're right. See? So it can't be a Belvedere. So you would guess. You just. Just gave it up and said it's going to be the dart. And the dart was produced sixty three to seventy five. So all of that and I'm done. So as you might have guessed, unfortunately that's not quite correct. Yeah I figured as much. So the Dodge La Femme was was a two door hardtop produced in nineteen fifty five and fifty six. Five and six as a spring special version of the custom Royal Lancer. See? And you even said Lancer and Royal Lancer, too. I did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You you tap danced around it. The the La Femme had a two tone Heather rose and sapphire white paint scheme and gold La Femme Fender badging with lots of chrome, and the interior was entirely pink with wood trim and came with a handbag, powder case, lipstick, comb, cigarette case, hat and a mackintosh, which is a waterproof raincoat. It had all that stuff that's killer, so I didn't know they actually produced that one. Yep. Yes, they did, because I remember I've seen that La Femme and I didn't. This is where my mind was going. I was seeing that car, but I was and I even said like there was some fifties things. That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. And then then I got confused with the cartoon. Oh, maybe that's not it. So then I went newer. Um, that car was bitching. I remember seeing pictures of that thing. Is that right? Yeah. It's cool. Have you ever seen one? I've not seen all of them. Yeah, it's like pink and very, very light pink. Basically the rose and scarlet, whatever they call it. Yeah. Well, it's a great looking car. Beautiful. Mhm. I'd drive it. Yeah. And uh I guess it had the, the super red Ram Hemi V8 that powered it. And the legacy notes here said the Lafemme wasn't a huge success, but it made automakers realize the value of women car buyers. While the idea of a gendered vehicle seems strange today, in the nineteen fifties, it was considered forward thinking for sure. Yeah. And of course, Dodge had the forward look right after it did. Yep. Um, I think it was expensive also. Probably. I think that was part of the problem. And I kind of think they were thinking like, again, in that fifties, you know, mindset that this would be like a car you'd buy your wife. Right. You know, this wasn't like, not like the Mustang where it was like somebody entering the workforce. This is an option. This is like, no, no, no, no. You know, Homeboy's got an Imperial in the garage, and now he's got the little. The little woman's got a la femme. Right, right, right. Ward and June. You know they got there. Yeah. Huh. That's a great question. Oh. Thank you. Appreciate that. But of course, you know, Mopar then had two, two names for the same color pink going forward on the on in the high impact line. The in seven sixty nine seventy. They had two I'm sorry. Say that one more time. Two names two names for the same color. Dodge. Oh, yeah. Dodge and Plymouth. Yeah yeah yeah. And they were well. Oh, gosh. Um. Panther. Pink. Yeah. And Moulin Rouge! Yes. That's it. Well, didn't wasn't like like all the impact colors. Just different names on both sides. Like sassy, sassy, grass green. Was something else on for Dodge or something like that? Yes. Um, Sassy Grass was, uh. Of course you put me on the spot. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Every one of these. Yeah, like lemon twist is like lemon twist and top banana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh. Go, man. Go was Hemi orange? I think it was like go mango, you know. Ah, gotcha. Nice. Or that was, uh, it was plum crazy and inviolate. Okay. Tore red in hemi orange were the same or red. Torrid are very nice anyway. Yeah that's fine. Great question. Okay, so we'll zip over to this one. ZIP over to the the scuttle the panel. Scuttle panel. And you said the dashboard is your favorite part of the car? It is. It is dashing. Meat pie. Like yourself. Ah! God bless America. Dashing. Meat pie. Oh. The scuttle panel is unfortunately not a dash, but it's close. It is the panel at the base of a car's windshield, located between the windshield and the engine bay. Ooh. And it serves the channel water away from the engine and passenger compartment. Also known here in the good old USA as the cowl cowl cowl panel. Well, well, well. So I guess it scuttles the water away. Yeah, sure. Yeah. That's great. That's great. See, I was I was thinking, like, even further back in the horse and buggy days that it would scuttle the dirt away from, you know, how it would in the States. It would dash away the dirt and then the things you'd kick up, because that was the dash was that panel and the scuttle would do the same thing, but in Aussie speak, so pretty imaginative. But yeah, that's how I am. So maybe next time we'll find another name for Dash. Maybe I think Dory is Dash. Ah. I thought as far as you're concerned, Dory means f you. Oh, man. Well, all right, man, uh. Good question. Yeah, yeah. No, yours is really good. I'm gonna. I gotta look that car up now. You should look it up and check it out. It's cool. Yeah, actually, I, I was when, while we were talking. It is pretty cool I think with the trim and stuff that if they did those in different colors too, it didn't just have to be pink. I mean, if there was like a two tone blue. Uh huh. Oh, it'd be killer. It would rock. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. All right, well, something to think about there. Yeah, man. Um, well, this was fun. I appreciate, uh, catching up again. Yeah. Likewise. Yeah. We, uh, let a little too much time slip away from the last episode till now. Yeah, it happens this time of year. Things get busy, but, uh, we'll work on that for the next one, because there's a lot more coming. Friends. So make sure you hit the subscribe button so that you don't miss whatever the heck word for Dash we come up with next time. Uh, uh, for, uh, Mr. Mike meat pie. Cueball Clarke, I'm Kevin Oeste, inviting you to, uh, keep the shiny side up, and we will talk to you next time on V8 Radio.